The Remembering Process - Daniel Barrett

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Daniel Barrett: (00:00)
These are my new pads that I use for things. I bought like a brick of these, these guests checks. It’s really fun. They’re good.

Daniel Barrett: (00:07)
conversation piece. And then as I’m doing an album, like I’m doing a new Joe album, so I put these up here like a short order cook, like we need, you know, trumpet and then we’ll, we’ll write it down. It’s a sweet little hook. Like Joe’s crazy for it. He’s like kept taking pictures of it.

Ann Rea: (00:24)
It’s good to have fun. It makes you more creative. All right.

Daniel Barrett: (00:27)
All right, let’s do it.

Ann Rea: (00:29)
Three. All right. Before you Grammy, Dan, before you found artists who thrive, what are your three big fat problems?

Daniel Barrett: (00:43)
uh, they were big. Um, the first thing is I just didn’t, I didn’t know what to do with money. I didn’t know how to manage money. I didn’t know. I didn’t understand how money works in the world. It felt like a foreign, it felt like a burden. It felt like this thing I had to deal with on route to being able to do my art. Um, I, so I just didn’t understand both the energetics of money or the specific tangible ways that people use money as a tool and wield it well. It just was, I felt like this awkward burden.

Ann Rea: (01:21)
And how did that get solved? What changed?

Daniel Barrett: (01:25)
Mmm, that’s solved mostly through, reading. I read a ton of, I read a ton of books. I got counsel. I mean, you’re going to see a theme is I got council, I mean, uh, I was working with you. You had worked out a lot around that, so you were a great counselor about that. And then there’s just, there’s just, I read hundreds of books about it of which sometimes less than 10% of the book I absorbed. But when you read a hundred books and you absorb, I mean, eventually I got my skills together. Um, and a lot of what I did too was, um, I learned how to spend money on things that make me more money. Like I spent money on coaching, but that was something that made me a bunch more money. So I, I learned the difference between investing and spending even on myself, you know? So that was, that was really important.

Ann Rea: (02:23)
So that’s a big thing. So the big you had problem around money and then you just learned learning the difference between investing and spending. Huge, huge, huge lesson. Okay. What was the problem? Was the other problem that you had.

Daniel Barrett: (02:36)
A lack of belief in myself, it was like a, um, there was a, there’s too much, you know, it’s funny, a little certain kinds of doubts can prod you forward, you know, a certain amount of insecurity,I know is somewhat productive because it you makes you burn for something. But at a certain point, there’s a diminishing returns point. So I learned how to think better, about myself and, and celebrate myself as much or more than I was. I still criticize myself positive, in an upbeat and honest manner. Like, this needs to be better. I’ve got to improve this, that and the other thing. But I, I also learned how to celebrate my wins.

Ann Rea: (03:24)
So how did you learn how to criticize yourself better and celebrate your wins?

Daniel Barrett: (03:29)
The, the real thing, uh, the real difference came. Um, and just making sure that I didn’t just criticize myself. I had to get just, you have to be just as good at celebrating yourself. I was already really good at criticizing myself if I didn’t need any practice on that. So I wouldn’t say I changed it, but somehow balancing it out, it creates balance in the force. You know, the force being a magical thing. From balance in myself. So I still, I’m still a tough critic of my work, but I do, so not out of you know, without venom towards myself, just kind of out of, out of the desire to be better. Yeah.

Ann Rea: (04:09)
Right. Okay. So it’s actually more realistic too balancing it, balancing criticism with praise. So what was the other, it was a third big problem that you had before/

Daniel Barrett: (04:19)
This is something you helped me with a lot, which was, um, I was scattered. If, uh, if we weren’t on a live chat, I’d say scattered as, and then you can, uh, no, scattered as onions on a grill scattered. I was, I was scattered, smothered and covered. Um, which is something they say. There’s the, there are these horrible restaurants called waffle houses here in the South. You can get your, you can get your potatoes scattered, smothered and covered. And that’s how I was, I was all over the place. And um, you know, we worked a lot. One of the most important things is that, uh, you have, you’d have me do these, uh, weekly checkins and so that was a way to 3000 feet or 10,000 feet instead of right in my face. And what did I do this week? What do I want to do next week? And um, and you every week reserve the right to cancel all further sessions. If I didn’t do it was, and that scared the crap out of me. So I was like this, this woman for real.

Ann Rea: (05:27)
Well, cause your market will cancel you if you don’t do, at least that.

Daniel Barrett: (05:33)
I agree. And so you, um, and that also helped me with my belief in self, actually going back to number two, you know, that just that having somebody I respect like I respect you and showing up for what you asked me to do. That changed my belief in myself. That’s another great way, you know, you can like build belief in yourself by doing affirmations saying I’m the best and I’m good and everyone loves it. You know, you can do, I actually love affirmations to some degree, but also just, um, keeping your agreements with yourself and others. That’s a great way to believe in yourself more. Like I’ll do what I say I’ll do. And that, that’s a great simple, very, that’s a time tested, non new agey way of getting more belief in yourself by doing what you say.

Ann Rea: (06:22)
Small commitments leads to bigger commitments or the ability to keep bigger commitments to yourself and to others into your marketplace. Definitely. Okay. So you said you were like drawn to artists who thrive, that whole, that notion, that phrase, that blog name. What was the, why? Why was that such a refreshing or astounding title for you?

Daniel Barrett: (06:49)
I can go off about this because you’re very spirit was so refined all the way down to your name that your name is as powerful as you are and you’re powerful. You have this, um, clarity as to who you are and what you’re doing. And in your, it’s just such a frickin clear and perfect expression. Artists who thrive, like who doesn’t want to be like you have to be an idiot not to want to be in that club. As soon as I saw it I was like whatever. Also I was doing and I was like F that and right there and I signed up and then you were like, Oh sorry I don’t work with musicians. And you’re like, yes you do. I would have like driven there showing up. That would’ve been awkward. So luckily you accepted me. Um, cause it was just, you know when, when something is right it tends to resonate as right all the way down to the core, down to the name, down to the logo, down to the website. And your website was clean and beautiful and updated consistently. I mean, like artists who thought it looked thriving. And then I went to Ann Rea’s painting website and the colors were vibrant and there was stuff, you know, that you could buy from hundreds of thousands of dollars to like a five, $2 postcard. It was like everything, you know, somebody who’s like walking the walk. And that was in the first 10 minutes. I’m like, all right, I’m signing up. I don’t know what this lady’s eaten for breakfast, but I’m going to find out and start eating it too.

Ann Rea: (08:26)
Just to be clear, how have I paid you for anything you’re saying?

Daniel Barrett: (08:31)
Um, you said my hair look good.

Ann Rea: (08:35)
I did.

Daniel Barrett: (08:36)
That was a, so I will take you pay me in one compliment.

Ann Rea: (08:40)
I gave you one compliment. All right, so now

Daniel Barrett: (08:43)
does it?

Ann Rea: (08:44)
It does look good. It looks good. I remember you’re doing, you had different hair when we,

Daniel Barrett: (08:49)
I didn’t get paid a single solitary cent people, um, don’t be a numbskull. My income has gone up so significantly as a result of my relationship with Ann Rea. And, um, I get absolutely bupkis except for, um, uh, a great opportunity to get back to a mentor of mine. And this is the real stuff and it works and I’m living it. So you, I know so many, uh, artists think that there are, there, there is no light at the end of the tunnel or there is no method to this and there is and it works. And the only thing holding you back, are the same, you know, unproductive thoughts. You know, your most, a lot of people are just doing the same crap that isn’t working. And so I was lucky enough to have the opportunity to try something new and it worked in, in dozens of ways and it has made me, um, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars, not tens of thousands of dollars. And it says, this has been, an absolutely. It was what, four or five years ago for about five years ago that we worked in it. Um, it worked quickly and has continued to work and, and it being a host of really tangible things that you can do for your spirit and you know, technically and tangibly. So, um, so no, I don’t get a cent, but I want to see other people get the opportunities that I have.

Ann Rea: (10:22)
So if you had to give other artists one piece of parting advice, like one thing you could say or, or even that version of yourself that had those problems and didn’t know what to do about it, which, what, what’s one piece of parting advice you’d give people?

Daniel Barrett: (10:39)
Get help and that’s on multiple levels. I have hired an assistant engineer who is in another room working in my music studio on stuff. So as I’m doing this interview projects for my studio are being fixed and, I was seeing client and the other room and files were getting exported. I got coaches coaching with Ann and a number of other people that still do, I spent a lot of money on coaching. And I will always do that. And I just, new coaches, new books, new programs. Get help. Um, there’s this weird, self-flagellating dragging yourself through the desert, cross to bear artists, bull crap. It doesn’t work.

(11:27)
The more help I get, the more money I make and the better art I make. You can’t do it alone. And I don’t know any very successful person in a creative field, music, visual art, that is completely, solitary in their efforts there. It just, it just doesn’t work. There’s too much to do. And so you have to know when to outsource and you have to experiment with that. And the first thing to do is to study with somebody who’s already doing it. And even down to, I wrote a book with Joe Vitale called the Remembering Process. Well we had really great editors help us edit it. I didn’t want to sit there and edit every word. We wrote the book and then we got help. And it goes on and on and on. Get help. And yeah.

Ann Rea: (12:14)
You didn’t design the cover or you didn’t distribute books, is that what you’re saying?

Daniel Barrett: (12:19)
Oh, we didn’t do the legal, we hired a lawyer. We got a publicist, we got editors. You know, there’s, there’s a way in which you, one of the skills of being an artist is learning what to do yourself. And that usually involves the things you are best at and things that you have that will spark of genius in. And then you start to learn first small and manageable and financially manageable in larger and larger ways to outsource the things that don’t suit you in what you’re doing.

Ann Rea: (12:48)
Let me be the devil’s advocate and say, ask you, well, what I can’t afford it. Can’t afford it. What, what do you say?

Daniel Barrett: (12:56)
I understand. And first of all, I would tell you first thing is never say I can’t afford it. At the very least, I can’t afford it yet. Add the word yet to what you’re saying. Because one of the things I learned from Ann and from all the great teachers is that your language will predict your future is I can’t afford it yet. So, or and even better as I’m not sure how to afford it yet. The first thing that you can do, um, I’m not a huge fan of bartering, but early on when I had more time than money, I did use it and I did it successfully. So yeah, so, so barter a little bit and find somebody, find the things that you need done but aren’t great at and find somebody who you can trade with. There are online resources, ways to get help free.

Daniel Barrett: (13:48)
Someone like Ann, you know, there are even for coaching, if you can’t afford a coaching program, um, I will say this, I have a challenge if somebody wants to work with Ann or myself or anyone and doesn’t, “Oh, I want to, but I can’t afford it.” That person better have every single free resource printed out and completed and in a binder like I have done every single thing that you have offered for free and when, and if once they finished, all of those, they’re going to be able to afford you.

Daniel Barrett: (14:27)
You know, like that’s um, that I’d be amazed at how many people think they can’t afford it but haven’t scoured every nook and cranny of your, website, blog and resources and printed out every blog post and applied it to them. There’s just so much there. There’s so much meat on the bone, especially these days when most of the great teachers have free as part of their, have like a very free free information, a package as part of their offer. There’s just tons out there and a lot of people aren’t making good on that.

Ann Rea: (15:01)
I agree. And you can make it, that is one way you can start to increase your income. And so yeah, this is great. This is perfect. So thank you for sharing the, your problems and challenges and how you resolve them specifically. And I think that’s a great piece of parting advice. Get help. I get help. I have mentors, I don’t have it all figured out because I want to take things up to a higher level and I want to do it quickly and I don’t want to spend a lot of time, money and frustration doing it. So I get help and you still get help and we all need to gain specialized knowledge and specialized knowledge is some of it’s free and some of it you got paid for. It’s all there is to it. Yup. All right. Grammy, Dan, I thank you so much for your time and your energy and your enthusiasm and I’m so proud of you and happy for your success and your continued success, which I see when we go to the Grammy Award ceremony and clap for you.

Daniel Barrett: (16:13)
And I again, I all kidding aside, I get absolutely nothing other than the, um, opportunity to recommend you to others, which I do wholeheartedly. So, um, you people, write in right now because this has been one of the best decisions in my whole life to work with Ann.

Ann Rea: (16:33)
Thank you. Thank you very much. All right, grant. Grammy. Dan, I’ll be talking to you soon. I know I will. We’ll be doing another Remembering Process. I think it’s your turn.

Daniel Barrett: (16:44)
Okay. It’s my turn.